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[00:00:23] Speaker B: Welcome to we the People. I am Alina Gonzalez Stockry, your host.
Tonight we're covering two stories that look very different on the surface, but they share the same underlying truth.
When systems lose control, the public feels it first.
We're continuing our coverage tonight of Venezuela. A lot has happened in Venezuela recently and it has major implications for regional stability, migration and energy markets and US Foreign policy.
And let's recall three weeks ago, Maduro's capture by US Forces. It's amazing to think that was only three weeks ago.
And Nicolas Maduro now faces federal charges in New York for leading a narco terrorism conspiracy, specifically conspiring to import cocaine into the US and using military grade weapons to protect drug trafficking operations.
Del Rodriguez, Maduro's former vice president, assumed the acting presidency following his removal. While she initially condemned the US Raid, she has since signaled a shift toward cooperation.
And the Venezuelan military and police have officially pledged loyalty to her government.
But mark my words, the US has made it abundantly clear she is not viewed as a long term solution. She is the the short term stability, the prevention of chaos.
But history tells us something important.
Removing a dictator is a moment.
Dismantling the system that was built around him is the real test.
And here at home in Minneapolis, we're watching a different kind of pressure point.
Federal enforcement, public protest, public safety, and a shift in coordination after Trump's conversations with Governor Tim Waltz and Mayor Jacob Fry.
Tonight, I'm going to do what we always do here. I'll separate what's confirmed from what's developing. I'll tell you what officials are saying, what the public is seeing, and what are the next questions.
Because Americans deserve clarity, not noise.
So let's start.
So like I said earlier, we're continuing our coverage of Venezuela. And if you've been watching this show, you know the lens we use. This is not just about one man. This is about the system behind him, that regime, the mafia, as my former guest Jose Pereira so eloquently described.
Because regimes like this don't run on elections, they run on guns, money, media intimidation, coercion and fear.
So, yes, Maduro is out, but the real question is what happens now and then, how soon can we make this change?
Foreign let's start with what's being reported and widely confirmed across major coverage.
Nicolas Maduro no longer in power. The regime that Was behind him, is still in power temporarily.
And the response from the Venezuelan people tells you something that no propaganda machine can hide.
They celebrated in the streets. They still have hope, though. They are still concerned about real change into back to democracy.
One thing is for certain.
The remarkable difference between Venezuela in countries like Cuba is that Venezuela still remembers what it was like to be a democratic nation. To have freedoms, to enjoy prosperity, to enjoy food of abundance in the. In the grocery stores, not rations.
To enjoy being free of persecution for stating their opinions against a government.
We learned what it looked like to be a political prisoner when we had Jose Pereira as a guest last week.
The clearest referendum wasn't in a ballot box for the Venezuelan people. It was in the street.
When we witness people pouring out to celebrate the removal of a leader, that tells you everything you need to know about the mandate the regime claimed to have.
A country with that much oil wealth should not have families living in desperation unless the system is designed only to enrich the rulers and continue to trap and arguably enslave the people.
Venezuela for the past 25 years did not suffer from bad luck or mismanagement.
It was a strict playbook of a model that Fidel Castro himself wrote.
Now here's the hard truth. Taking Maduro out is only a. A tiny portion of the change that needs to take place in order for there to be true liberation and democracy restored to the Venezuelan people.
Removing one man does not automatically res. Remove the regime that kept him in power. Because Hugo Chavez started this regime under the tutelage and mentorship of Castro. And then it was really hardened even more so by Maduro.
But this regime, the machine behind the man, that is really what needs to be changed, what needs to be ousted.
So who is this machine?
This machine? How does it survive? Well, it is the regime.
Security services that survive on loyalty tests. If you are deemed disloyal, you are put in prison.
Intelligence networks that survive on fear, coercion and threats.
Courts that are weaponized to persecute the citizens instead of regulating the laws.
Money flows that can be redirected and propaganda that can rebrand oppression as stability.
And that's why the next 30 to 90 days matter more than a celebration.
Because transitions can go one of three ways.
One best hope, an orderly transition. Security forces hold the line. The country moves towards legitimate leadership. One, that is elected by the people.
Two, a power vacuum. Factions fight, criminal networks export, expand. There's chaos on the streets, civil war. And the ordinary people pay the price.
And that is why the interim president is the Vice President Rodriguez.
Or three, we just have a regime rebrand slap a new face on the, on the COVID of that, of that regime's cover page. Same machine, same mafioso attitude. New face, new slogans. But the people suffer even more. So the third one is the trap.
The second one is what we have avoided when President Trump and Marco Rubio, our Secretary of State, agreed for the interim president to be del severed Rodriguez, which of course is a Maduro right hand person.
But it was the only way to maintain scenario two from occurring.
Now let's talk about the oil. Everybody is screaming that the US is only doing this about oil.
But oil is not just money in Venezuela. Oil is leverage. Oil is how you fund a state. Buy loyalty, control the future. But they weren't even really making money off the oil because remember, they were selling oil at $20 less than what the barrel would get on market value to China because of debt that they owed to China because remember, they were defaulted on their debts, much like Cuba has been doing.
So this interim structure, any transitional authority, any new government.
The first question is not about the speeches. It's who is controlling the cash flow. And according to Secretary of State Rubio, the US Will be in control of that cash flow through the oils that are embargoed, through the sales at market rate, at fair market value.
And they will not be releasing these funds to the Venezuelan government unless there is a budget presented to them. Because the number one goal and as stated by Secretary State Rubio is the is to maintain the infrastructure and to assure that the people are receiving what they need. And it's more than just military or security. We're talking sanitation, continued electricity, food, medicine, access to medical needs.
That is what's important.
Because recall this, and we must always recall this, whoever controls the money, whoever controls that cash flow, controls food distribution, electricity and fuel, payroll for security forces, imports and basic stability. It's no longer available to line the cartel in the Mafiosos or to line the pockets of the terrorists that have been inhabiting Venezuela.
So when you hear transition, don't think of a ceremony, think of infrastructure, money control.
Order must come first. If we do not have order, we cannot have election. If we do not have order, we do not have hospitals.
You have gangs, militias and cartels that are biting at the bit to take over and cause chaos in Venezuela. That is why we need order.
Freedom isn't proven by speeches. Freedom is proven by outcomes.
Coming up next, what is the US saying officially, including the Senate hearings with Secretary of State Marco Rubio and what we know about the plan going forward. You're watching we the People. We'll be right back.
Welcome back to we the People.
So in our last segment, we had the moment.
Now it's time to discuss what happens next with Venezuela.
And this week, one of the clearest windows into US thinking came from Senate testimony involving Secretary of State Marco Rubio.
Rubio laid out a sequence that's important because it's only, it's the only sequence that actually works in a fragile transition.
Stability first, recovery second, transition third.
Now, why that order? Why is it so important that we do it that way?
Because people want to jump straight to the elections, throw an election. Right now you have really, what was the winner of the 2024 election? Gonzalez, who is, you know, in exile in Spain, demanding an election now. But that won't work because we do not.
The regime, the loyalty to the regime is still in control of the militaries, the, the secret police, the courts and such. You need to have that transition and then to allow another election.
Of course, people want announcements, they want ribbon cutting moments, they want that feel good picture moment.
But you cannot build democracy on chaos, which is what would ensue. Like we discussed previously, you can't build trust without there being security and stability. You cannot transition without first maintaining sense of order.
So what does stability mean? It means securing critical infrastructure, more so than just the oil fields, keeping the streets from collapsing into violence and warfare, preventing criminal networks such as the narco cartels or the terrorists like Hezbollah from filming a vacuum and stopping a rebrand of the same corrupt machine.
Now, some would like to say that the US is only doing this for the oil.
But Secretary of State Marco Rubio detailed a novel arrangement where Venezuelan oil is sold at market prices, something that they haven't been doing for years.
But the revenues will be held in a Qatari bank account for the moment.
But that account is overseen by U.S. treasury.
The funds are released only after the U.S. approves a monthly budget for basic services like health care, policing, food and infrastructure.
And also some of the other implementations that Rodriguez and their Congress have approved is allowing for in order to deal with the thick crude, which is Vanessa island crude, buying from the U.S. the other aspects of it to thin it out and make it processable, which before they were purchasing from Russia at a much higher rate because of the debts they owed to them.
So recovery, recovery means restarting the economy so the people can thrive, so they can live stabilizing the currency which is now currently happening, and supply chains stabilizing the supply chain so that food, goods, imports and exports both can come out.
Restoring the basic services that have been neglected for decades under the Maduro Chavez regime and rebuilding the confidence needed for corporations to invest in Venezuela. Not to take over, to invest, to improve what they already have.
Because nobody's going to invest money in Venezuela until there are serious changes.
And then the transition, a transition towards legitimate leadership, one that has been elected by the people, for the people. And yes, I believe that Maria Machado is that person.
But to have real elections, not one where a dictator like Maduro declares that he won, regardless if that was a lie.
And also you have to replace this system of corruption, control, tyranny, fear and utter threat, because a new system, a democratic society, cannot survive on fear, cannot survive on where the people believe that they, if they speak out against the government, they will be thrown into the hell of all hells, the prison systems that are there in Venezuela.
Now let's talk about benchmarks, because the world will be tempted to accept a new government that's basically the same network, just with better prison. You know those lovely little photo op moments which many, let's recall with Hugo Chavez, we had many stars and politicals that like those photo ops.
That's not freedom, that's a rebrand.
So what proves it's real?
It's really simple. And Marco stated this.
Political prisoners are released. Are they being released? Yes. Is it at a very slow rate? Absolutely. Is there also a fear that many of those political prisoners, the names that, that are on lists upon pages of lists may be dead? Absolutely.
Censorship has to be rolled back. The people must have free access to Internet and news and information.
Corruption must be prosecuted.
The narco networks that have been in power for too long must be dismantled.
And again, a real measurable path to election.
No blank checks. This is it.
And if America supports an interim arrangement, then demand measurable benchmarks, transparency on money, and a clear timeline toward legitimate elections. And there must be accountability.
And I want to emphasize one benchmark above all, because it tells you what kind of country you're dealing with immediately.
How does the government treat political prisoners? We heard the atrocities, the torture that Jose Pereira and his fellow five executives of the Sicko Six endured.
The horror stories that are coming out of those political prisons of Venezuela are horrific.
The mental torture, the physical torture that has to come to attend. And those people have to be held accountable.
Now, freedom isn't proven by the speeches I've stated it. It's proven by who walks out of prison. Because many of those Political prisoners. Those hostages are going to be key in this transition to a new democratic government.
Those are the ones that were outspoken. Those are the ones that have the era of the people.
And those that are in exile must feel safe. There needs to be a safety measures put into effect so they can return to the very country that they love so much, that they sacrifice. As recall, Machado was hidden for so much longer than Gonzalez could stand, but there's still assassination hits on her. We need to ensure that not only are there releases the safety of the exiles returned, If prisoners are released, the courts become independent, because that's the other thing. Because we have a very corrupt court system currently in Venezuela and retaliation stops, then you are watching real change. That is when we are witnessing what could be.
Now you might be thinking, what does this have to do with us?
Everything.
Remember, this is our backdoor neighbor. This is our hemisphere. We have our closest, our enemies at the closest. Setting up bases and operations in Venezuela. Iran and Hezbollah are setting up terrorist organizations. They're training in terrorist ops in Venezuela.
This is for our safety and security as well.
It's not about making money, it's about our security.
And it's also about ensuring that the Western hemisphere, our Americas, both South Central, North Americas, are free and democratic.
Also, because when systems collapse overseas, it creates migration, pressure, criminal opportunity. As we see with the trend gang members that have flooded our nation due to the open borders that the last administration allowed.
Instability doesn't stay contained in this manner. And here at home, we're watching another pressure point unfold.
Not in Caracas, not in Miami, Florida, but in Minneapolis of all places.
When we come back, President Trump's conversations with Governor Tim Waltz and Mayor Jacob Fry turned a page to what we were seeing as devastation. But how does Minneapolis and Venezuela connect? Because there was chaos on the streets where we have defiance of government officials that are provoking the very same protesters or actually enabling them and encouraging them to attack.
Because they were not protesting, they were engaging, they were assaulting, they were disrupting federal government things. And it caused chaos and it causes emotions to rise high. And unfortunately, it resulted in two deaths in Minneapolis.
And not only that, it shows complete DISDAIN for the U.S. constitution, the U.S. federal government and maintaining peace.
We're going to get into more of that and how Tom Homan, if you recall our border czar, who was also the border czar for President Barack Obama, the same man that President Barack Obama saluted and celebrated, gave a medal to for his efforts in the mass deportations, the 7 million plus deportation that went under President Obama. And why was it then not as publicized? Because it wasn't seen as people were behind it and still the majority are behind it. So stay with us. We the People will be right back.
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Now we're shifting to Minneapolis, where federal enforcement activity, protests and public safety have collided in real time, resulting in in two deaths, resulting in the attack of federal ICE officers.
And what seems to be hopeful is a conversation. It forced a conversation between President Donald Trump, Governor Tim Waltz and Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey.
So in the last week, we've seen what appears to be a coordination shift, and that's all because of this one conversation.
And in that conversation, two things have resulted.
A top ICE officer in charge has been removed, and I think rightfully so.
And Tom Homan, our very own border czar, has been sent to Minneapolis to negotiate directly with Tim Waltz and Mayor Jacob Fry. And state troopers have now stepped up to assist in maintaining order, because that was what was really lacking. No order whatsoever. No boundaries, no assistance to federal officers.
So let's look at this peaceful protest versus disorder.
Let's start with something that should not be controversial, but it is. I can assure you when I talk about it with my father, it seems to be controversial.
Peaceful protest is a constitutional right. That is what makes our country so amazing and beautiful, because we have the First Amendment right to free speech. We have a First Amendment right to protest peacefully. What is not a constitutional right. Assaults on officers, disrupting federal investigations, circling police cars, banging on their windows, biting them, vandalism, intimidation and disorder are not protected speech.
Looting, rioting, all of that is not protected speech. Stand on the sidewalk across from there with your poster board, screaming with your whistles, that's fine.
But the moment you start engaging, assaulting and preventing federal officers from conducting their business, you are no longer acting within your constitutional rights.
Part of what has really inflamed this situation is that federal enforcement activity has occurred in a climate where protests have not stayed purely peaceful.
So the public is watching two things at once. Federal agents carrying out operations and then federal agents reacting.
And I'm going to tell you right now, we need a thorough investigation of what occurred in Minneapolis. Why? An accountability of those officers, whether a weapon was discharged and why, when a man looks like he had been apprehended and his gun had been taken from him, why he was killed.
But we're also watching crowds, crowds that have been incited, crowds that are initiating aggressively with ice.
You cannot initiate aggressively. This is not peaceful protesting. Yes, there are some peaceful protesters. I've seen them.
I think we've all witnessed them. And it's fine.
Actually, I applaud them.
Even if I don't necessarily agree with all of their talking points. I applaud that they are doing it peacefully, and they have that right. And it makes me proud to be an American because they had that right. But when you start going after ICE vehicles, when you start circling them, you're impeding them. You start throwing things at them, biting them.
What is already a powder keg is. Is more explosive.
And this is where the leadership really matters.
Because when the tensions are rising, leadership can either de. Escalate everything by saying, okay, people protest peacefully. You have that right. Okay, police officers or law enforcement, state troopers, maintain the peace and ensure that the federal officers are not in any way impeded, or leadership can fuel the fire, which has been happening in Minnesota, specifically by Governor Waltz, by Mayor Fry, because of the rhetoric that they have been stating in the news.
And then you have Kristi Noem, who that will probably be another subject for another show, who should absolutely be terminated.
She is somebody that seems to like the photo ops and be on the news and have sound bites, but she has, especially with what is occurring in Minneapolis, has been a disaster. And I agree with Senator Fetterman when he called out to President Trump, please fire her.
Don't allow a bad DoH secretary, a department of Homeland Security, be your ruin like Biden did with his.
Now let's turn to Governor Waltz and Mayor Fry.
They have previously taken the position that local law enforcement will not enforce federal immigration law. Fine.
Local law enforcement is not there to enforce immigration law, but they are there to provide support.
But when you have a governor who is basically calling ICE the Gestapo, stating that they are evil, you have Mayor Fry absolutely stating that the police will not come to the rescue or to the assistance of ice federal officers, federal officers, fellow law enforcement officers who are only doing what they are called to do, and that is follow the immigration laws and pick up deportees.
There is a major point of political debate grounded in the reality that local agencies cannot be forced into federal immigration enforcement rules. That's fine. We see in other states, like Texas, like Florida, a greater number of ICE operations with people being gathered for deportations. But you don't see anything happening here. You don't hear about violence erupting. And there's a reason why. Because local law enforcement is either assisting or at least providing security.
But then that lends to. If local law enforcement isn't enforcing immigration law, which is what they don't have to in Minneapolis, who is responsible for the public order?
Who is responsible for de escalation? Who is responsible for riot control?
That is the state.
That is the state troopers. That is the local law enforcement in Minneapolis.
And who is responsible for crowd control when things do go sideways and you do have violence ensuing?
Because that is the major problem here. What we're having is a lack of leadership, a lack of accountability. And thank you, President Trump, thank you, Governor Waltz, and thank you, Mayor Fry, for finally putting egos aside and getting on that phone.
Because what is not optional is the public safety. What is not optional is placing law enforcement, individuals, whether it's local, state or federal, in jeopardy.
And you do not get to outsource that responsibility. You do not get to say, oh, that's not my deal. I'm against this immigration overhaul. We're not going to support Trump or ice. No, your first duty is to your people.
So now let's talk about this key development. Now, maga. Some people in MAGA are like, Trump has been, no, he's not.
He is not. He's absolutely trying to gain what the number one goal was. Let's root out all of the violent criminals, violent criminals that are here undocumented or as some people would say, illegally here, grab them. Let's go to the jails, let's go to the prisons.
Now, also, the other thing is, is to ask, even though Minneapolis, Minnesota, seems to be a sanctuary state, hold those that do not have documentation, that are violent criminals. We're talking rapists, abusers, robberies, murders. I mean, let's go after that, because that's how it was sold to us. The first step in this deportation and trying to get immigration under control was to go after the bad guys first. So let's do that.
So after President Trump's conversation with the governor and mayor, we saw an immediate shift towards coordination. And Trump himself stated in his truth messaging, I don't know, I want to call it a tweet, but it is truth that they actually had a very good conversation.
They found. Here's a shocking thing. What happens when people actually talk? They actually found common ground on many aspects. Imagine that safety of the public, ensuring that there's no riots, ensuring that there's no death, that there's no assaults.
That's a good thing.
And part of that shift included the transfer of Dan Bongino and the administration sending Tom Homan directly to Minneapolis.
And let's face it, Homan is not symbolic. This man gets things done. He understands better than anyone what is needed and how to get it done. And remember, he was very successful in working with President Barack Obama. He understands and knows, and he has an excellent reputation during a Democratic administration.
This is operational negotiation. Negotiation. And it was the federal government saying, we're not doing this through press releases. We're going to do this face to face. And when Homan arrives in Minneapolis to negotiate, that's the administration signaling that it wants coordination, de escalation and control of the streets. Because once disorder takes over, everyone loses.
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Okay, so we're talking about Minneapolis.
So we saw what the federal government has done.
Now we get to one of the most concrete changes.
Minneapolis has stepped up.
Minnesota has stepped up.
State troopers are assisting in crowd control, in preserving the safety of those people who want to protest, in assisting federal agents and stabilizing the operational environment.
That matters because it's recognition of something very simple.
We can debate immigration policies all day long, and we will, so we're blue in the face.
But you cannot debate the safety of the people, whether the streets should be safe, and how that should be done.
And when the straight troopers are engaged, it signals that the leadership recognizes public safety requires manpower, coordination, and clarity.
And it also puts an end to a lot of these NGOs that are. Are. Are funding these protesters and inciting them to be more aggressive.
So where do we land?
Federal agents must operate lawfully and professionally, and that has to be accounted for because it did not look like it was professional and lawful.
I am not a gun expert, but I assure you that it does need to be investigated thoroughly, not just swept under the rug. So that's on Pam Bundy.
Protesters have a right to speak, but not a right to attack.
And that is the most important.
Being disrespectful is not a right. Kicking the. The. The car is not a right. Trying to run over an office. An ICE agent with a car is not in your rights.
And local leadership has a duty to de. Escalate and maintain public order. And accountability belongs to everyone.
See, Minneapolis isn't just a local headline or oh, hey, it's up north, I'm down here in Florida. That's up them, that, that's a blue state and that's their problem. No, it's a national case study because it shows what happens when federal enforcement becomes operational inside American cities. And leadership at different levels are forced to either coordinate or clash.
So let's connect some dots.
For years, Americans were told the border was a distant issue.
In fact, those of you who live in Texas knew what an issue it was. But those up north really didn't seem to connect very well.
But border policy doesn't stay at the daughter.
It affects budgets, both city and state budgets, law enforcement capacity, hospital systems, schools and public trust. And when federal enforcement becomes more visible inside cities, you get flashpoints like Minneapolis.
And then the question becomes, can the system operate with order or will we keep repeating the same cycle?
Disorder, outrage, political blame, no resolutions, protests that turn to riots, that turn into inciting violence and then death.
Tom Homan represents the informant enforcement posture of this administration.
And the posture is clear. Enforcement is going to happen regardless of your political ideologies. This is happening.
Resistance will be met with consequences and coordination will be demanded for and expected. Because bottom line, just like the sheriff stated in Chicago, Illinois, you cannot say to law enforcement, you will stand down and allow ICE officers to be surrounded, to be put under threat. Because then the elevation that the adrenaline rises and you will see what happened, what results, violence and death.
So the posture is clear. Enforcement is going to happen, resistance will be met with consequences, and coordination has to happen.
We have to have clear rules of engagement, consistent policies across the board, regardless if it's a northern state, a blue state, a red state, a purple state, whoever, and we have to have a lawful execution. Because I'm telling you right now, there have been a lot of question marks on the execution. Maybe it's the optics, maybe it is how it's being perceived. But something has to give.
And it comes down ultimately on the shoulders of the leaders, leadership willing to de escalate conflict. Leadership that is leading and governing and stating, okay, we want safety in the streets, we do not want chaos, we do not want riots.
Because if the country becomes a permanent battlefield between federal authority and local refusal, that's not governance.
That is a complete dysfunctional society. And it sets up for a ruin and downfall for our way of living.
So let me say this clearly.
Accountability has to exist on both sides.
If the federal government is enforcing immigration law, it must be done lawfully, transparently and professionally.
But local and state officials also have a responsibility.
You don't get to refuse coordination. You don't get to incite violence against ice. You don't get to state words that are inflammatory and then refuse the de escalation and then act shocked and surprised that when the speaker streets spiral out of control and you have absolute chaos and you have a woman holding a flashbang and explodes in her hand, you have somebody shot, you have officers that are injured as well calling for help, pleading for help and nothing coming.
Peaceful protests are protected.
Violence is not attacking officers is not activism.
Chaos is not compassion.
The public deserves a system that enforces the law, protects the communities and respects rights all at the same time.
That's not partisan. That is leadership. That is common sense, something that seems to be lacking these days. And maybe, just maybe with this conversation that was held between the governor, mayor and President Trump, maybe with opening conversations and finding mutual points of agreement, maybe common sense can start coming back and we can start seeing leadership that is governing, not inciting.
And I look on both ends, governor or president goes to both of them.
What about we the people?
What do we the people demand next?
Simple enforcement with professionalism, with transparency, with legal aspects of it. And accountability, true accountability, not just sweeping under the rug investigations when force is used, Absolutely. We need an investigation as to what occurred in this latest incident.
Consequences when laws are broken, both by those on the private sector that are inciting violence against the officers, but also consequences for those ICE agents that have overstepped or violated certain rules, administrative rules, standard operating police procedures, and also resulting in serious injury or death.
And leadership that prioritizes the people over the political theater. Because remember this, regardless if you're a mayor, regardless if you're a governor, regardless if you're president, you are over all the people.
You don't just have one homogeneous type of person that you are leading.
You're supposed to be representing all individuals and ensuring all of our safety because that is what the government is supposed to be about. Safety, stability, governance and leadership.
So I'm going to tell you right now, we the people, we're exhausted and the public is done being told to accept disorder as normal. To say that this is absolutely fine because it's not as if we continue to allow total disarray in the streets. If we continue to allow our public elected officials to decry and to defame and to incite through rhetoric these type of these violent interactions between the public and law enforcement, we are going to see more deaths.
And something else has to occur.
And I think it's also not only should we the people be demanding more common sense, more open dialogue. See where there are more likenesses than disagreement, where there are more points that we can agree on. But we the people have to be accountable as well.
Because I'm watching these people, I'm watching these individuals who are inciting and attacking the cars and the or throwing things at the officers and getting in their faces and such. And I'm trying to figure out where is the common sense?
When do we the people take accountability for our own actions? Because that is what's happening. And maybe, just maybe, it's, it's we parents sitting down with our children going this.
No, if you're going to go protest, be safe, be smart, be respectful of the laws, don't incite.
So as my final thoughts as we close out our segment of we the People, Venezuela reminds us what happens when a nation is captured by fear, corruption and tyranny.
Minneapolis reminds us what happens when public order becomes a political tug of war and the rope is we the people.
These are two different stories, but the same lesson. When systems close, when systems lose control, we the people are the ones who pay.
We pay first and we pay always. And it is always our families, our communities, our safeguard and our trust that is the most violated.
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